seems to be a lot of peeps from Florida
So much apostasy in Florida.
seems to be a lot of peeps from Florida
So much apostasy in Florida.
http://www.businessinsider.com/computer-passed-the-turing-test-2014-6.
this could be the epitome of disruptive technology.
when 'watson' pounded contestants on jeopardy, i was stunned.. .
Ray Kurzweil predicted the technological singularity will happen in our life time. He is thinking 2045 and is hoping to be alive by then (he is 66). He thinks this will give us immortality. He is obsessed with death. Personally I can't wait to see what crazy sex robot the Japanese build with this technology.
i believe that the older you are the harder it is to leave the watchtower.. .
i am attempting to get a list of ages people learnt the "truth" and what age they left.. .
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6 to 18
I was five when my parents began studying and six when we attended meetings. I was 15 when baptized but faded at 18. I attended off and on till I was 22. All my siblings are inactive including my parents. My mother still believes and attends once in a while but no field service.
Overall the religion didn't have any major impact on my life. The congregation actually helped my family out a few times; so I hold no big grudge against them. I went to college and for the most part the Elders left my family alone. I belonged to a congregation that had lazy Elders and Elders that were busy with their businesses.
i have no agenda with this post, if anything i am suspecting the results will be against what i would want to hear as a christian.
however im asking the question as i am curious as to the results.
my personal position is in favour of a total ban but i do live in the united kingdom, however many of my friends live in the states.
"adjusted knowledge are you an atheist or a Christian?"
I believe there is a strong possibility of a Creator and try to live by most Christian values. I don't agree with all of the teachings.
So I guess a theist with Christian influences.
My position on gun control/laws is I don't care. I own many guns both hand guns and what the media would label assault guns. If I was told to turn them in to the government, I would not object. I don't believe they would reduce over all murders. I enjoy shooting guns but I don't hunt so it is not a big deal to me. It is a big deal to many and the reason why there is extreme opinions. Take guns from people and we will find other ways to kill. Never doubt mankinds ingenuity to kill our fellow man/woman/child. If Cain existed I don't think he had any trouble killing Abel with the lack of technology.
I don't think the radical proposals that LisaRose made will happen anytime soon. None of those opinions are original or very practical. Gun owners belong to both the Democrats and Republicans. It might as well be part of the Holy Grail of politics. Politicians won't make major changes in Social Security or Gun Laws any time soon.
i have no agenda with this post, if anything i am suspecting the results will be against what i would want to hear as a christian.
however im asking the question as i am curious as to the results.
my personal position is in favour of a total ban but i do live in the united kingdom, however many of my friends live in the states.
In China they have many mass killings done by knives.
On March 23, 2010, Zheng Minsheng (郑民生) [ 7 ] 41, murdered eight children with a knife in an elementary school in Nanping, [ 8 ] Fujian province.
April 2010 Leizhou, [ 11 ] Guangdong another knife-wielding man named Chen Kangbing, 33 (陈康炳) [ 12 ] at Hongfu Primary School wounded 16 students and a teacher
May 2010 An attacker named Wu Huanming (吴环明), 48, killed seven children and two adults and injured 11 other persons with a cleaver at a kindergarten in Hanzhong, Shaanxi on May 12, 2010
I could keep going but you get the point.
I propose the following on knife control.
Owning a knife should not be an automatic right. Every knife owner should have to pass a knife safety class, a background check and be licenced, with biometric functionality, so no one but you can ever use your licience. There will be a licence fee to cover the cost of this. Every knife should be licenced as well. All knives would be tracked from time of manufacture. All knives have a unique signature, microscopic imprints it leaves on every wound in the victim. All knives would be test stabbed at the factory and the markings entered into a database, so that if it is ever used in a crime it can be tracked back to the owner.
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my question basically is - why believe?.
now as a non believer i find it hard to understand how anyone in their right mind can believe in the supernatural and more to the point, live their lives according to an old book.
not just christians obviously.. my intention is not to offend people.
It is not surprising why people believe in a god and follow some spiritual book. It isn't that difficult to understand. People fear death. That is the simple explanation. If you take time to ponder on being Mortal it can be quite frightening. To KNOW you will die and it is forever is hard for many to accept. To accept means there is no justice and life is not fair. A belief in something more than a finite existence gives comfort to many.
The idea of seeing a child in another life after losing your child to a horrible disease, is more appealing than accepting that nature is both cruel and beautiful. Evolution is an important breakthrough in science with the transitional fossils being found to help answer our origins, but it doesn't answer the questions people have.
Why? and What? Why are we here? What is the meaning of life? In the science world these question are meaningless but to the average person they mean everything.
Then there are many who see how complicated life is and how so many things have to be in place for life to exist, and they just can't accept life is done without intelligence. Science can explain the transformation of life but the very beginning they still have not answered. The planet has only one Gensis and life is not spontaneous being created now. The study of abiogenesis is making great strives to answer these questions but scientists still have been unable to demonstrate life generation from non-living matter. Spiritual books answer these questions and offers simple explanations.
is coming and the elder wanted to set up a visit.
it's not like i wasn't warned.
there was a thread that talked about the push to call on inactive ones.. thanks to the heads up here, i knew the motive for the call.. i don't think i even know that eld.
I think "moral support" is a cliche, so that is why it is acceptable. Written English grammar is hard to use correctly. I don't see the need to correct people's grammar in an informal writing environment. There are many people that English is their second or third language. I blame being a JW for my poor grammar, because I was taught we will all be speaking ancient Hebrew in the paradise. So why master English? :)
the other day i was sitting in one of those meetings where the public talk was absolutely mind-dumbing.
by minute 5 i couldn't take it anymore paying further attention to what was being said, so my mind wandered.
i looked around to my own kh and started to notice something.
I stopped by to see my mother who was attending the one day assembly. They had their usual youth experiences going on the stage. You know where the young publishers tell how they gave up worldly goals to pioneer. Anyways this young attractive Spanish girl, perhaps 19-20 was giving her experience of pioneering and avoiding the pressure of outside influence in her spiritual development. I noticed in the assembly hall people nodding their heads and smiling. Then this young girl mentioned how she pioneers AND is taking courses at her community college to earn her AA degree. I literally heard a gasp from members around me. I understand their disappointment because how dare she only pioneer for just 100 hours, when she can obviously do 140.
They should be proud of this young woman and I at least feel she has a chance in life. With an AA degree she can easily bounce into a 4 year program of her choosing once she figures out that a career is needed to survive in this world. They also had a visiting brother from Bethel who represents the GB. He bashed on doing outside research but yet quotes Mark Twain. It is so hypocritical of the WT leaders to bash education but yet they will quote from Samuel Clemens who for the most part of his life was Anti-Religion, and they will quote from other educated men/women from all fields.
But to answer your question, I know of not one child in the congregation I left many years ago completing any college. I do know an elder from that congregation got his Law Degree. Which means he had to earn a BS/BA degree prior to the J.D. degree. So a total of SEVEN years of higher education. This is the same elder who condemn me for watching Brave Heart back in the 1990's. Yes, I watched my first R rated movie. I was such a big sinner.
i am inactive for about 10 years now..
Inactive since 1996 (last time I submitted field service report). I attended meetings and assemblies sporatically till 2000. I haven't been to a memorial since 2000.
I faded in good standing.
for a future conversation i will have with my mother i need some questions answered.
otherwise i will have to search and read through jw literature and i rather not :0. what was the teaching of 1919 during 1980's and 1990's (this is when i was active and my mother became a witness)?.
what is the current teaching of 1919?.
For a future conversation I will have with my mother I need some questions answered. Otherwise I will have to search and read through JW literature and I rather not :0
What was the teaching of 1919 during 1980's and 1990's (this is when I was active and my mother became a witness)?
What is the current teaching of 1919?
What evidence or proof does the governing body used that they are choosen from God? Besides their referencing some scripture.
What are the major changes in beliefs from 1995 to Now? I already know about the scandals and not interested in using that material since she won't believe it. But showing her doctrinal changes I think will have an impact.
I basically want to show my mother that the religion I was brought up in is not the same religion she belongs to now. That in fact if I refused to accept the new light and only believed what I was taught in 1980-1999 I would be disfellowship for apostasy.
Whoever is willing to answer this, if you could maybe list watchtower references it would help. My mother has an entire library of the bound volumes.